From sbrennan@stanford.edu Tue Jun 07 09:07:45 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!stanford!sbrennan From: sbrennan@stanford.edu (Sergei Brennan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Observation: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 09:07:45 GMT Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. This indicates socket U14 held a cryptographic S-box lookup table for decrypting the Stardust keystream. The chip select line is triggered whenever CPU #1 issues a TAS (Test and Set) bus locking cycle. Does anyone have a 27C256 EPROM marked 'MH-U14' or 'ORION-CRYPTO'? -- === Sergei Brennan === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "They will send a copy in my place." From dlee@berkeley.edu Wed Jun 08 01:35:45 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!berkeley!dlee From: dlee@berkeley.edu (Diego Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Observation: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1994Jun08.013545.1864@berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 01:35:45 GMT References: <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu>, sbrennan@stanford.edu (Sergei Brennan) writes: > Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- Diego Lee Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From knakamura@rwth-aachen.de Wed Jun 08 21:56:45 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!rwth-aachen!knakamura From: knakamura@rwth-aachen.de (Kirsty Nakamura) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Observation: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1994Jun08.215645.5663@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 21:56:45 GMT References: <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu>, sbrennan@stanford.edu (Sergei Brennan) writes: > Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. -- === Kirsty Nakamura === Dept of Electrical Engineering, RWTH Aachen Informatik "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From glaurent@hanse.de Thu Jun 09 09:56:45 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!hanse!glaurent From: glaurent@hanse.de (Göran Laurent) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Observation: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1994Jun09.095645.3715@hanse.de> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 09:56:45 GMT References: <1994Jun07.090745.2148@stanford.edu> <1994Jun08.215645.5663@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun08.215645.5663@rwth-aachen.de>, knakamura@rwth-aachen.de (Kirsty Nakamura) writes: > Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- === Göran Laurent === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Hold for relay."