From dweber@hanse.de Tue Dec 24 18:57:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!hanse!dweber From: dweber@hanse.de (Dmitri Weber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:57:41 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 Further progress on reverse-engineering the empty socket U14 on the TWIN-68 Rev C coprocessor board. This indicates socket U14 held a cryptographic S-box lookup table for decrypting the Stardust keystream. Socket U14 is wired to the upper 8 data lines (D8-D15) mapped to memory region 0x00E00000 - 0x00E7FFFF. Does anyone have a 27C256 EPROM marked 'MH-U14' or 'ORION-CRYPTO'? -- Dmitri Weber -- Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Do not worship the copy." From jdubois@panix.com Wed Dec 25 20:07:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!panix!jdubois From: jdubois@panix.com (Joachim Dubois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:07:41 GMT References: <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de>, dweber@hanse.de (Dmitri Weber) writes: > Further progress on reverse-engineering the empty socket U14 on the TWIN-68 Rev C coprocessor board. Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. -- Joachim Dubois Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From ybrennan@hanse.de Thu Dec 26 10:46:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!hanse!ybrennan From: ybrennan@hanse.de (Yuki Brennan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1996Dec26.104641.4510@hanse.de> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:46:41 GMT References: <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de> <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com>, jdubois@panix.com (Joachim Dubois) writes: > Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. That's why Line 08 says: 'WHEN EVERY NODE IS WHOLE, THE CHANNEL OPENS.' It requires all physical keys. -- Yuki Brennan -- Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." From rmuller@cern.ch Fri Dec 27 00:24:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!cern!rmuller From: rmuller@cern.ch (Raj Müller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1996Dec27.002441.8022@cern.ch> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:24:41 GMT References: <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de> <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com>, jdubois@panix.com (Joachim Dubois) writes: > Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. -- Raj Müller | rmuller@cern.ch PGP Key fingerprint: 369E 6E92 2E52 8867 "Keep the channels open." From nwatanabe@mit.edu Sun Dec 29 00:47:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!mit!nwatanabe From: nwatanabe@mit.edu (Natalia Watanabe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1996Dec29.004741.5415@mit.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:47:41 GMT References: <1996Dec24.185741.5785@hanse.de> <1996Dec25.200741.1196@panix.com> <1996Dec27.002441.8022@cern.ch> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1996Dec27.002441.8022@cern.ch>, rmuller@cern.ch (Raj Müller) writes: > Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- Natalia Watanabe -- Massachusetts Institute of Technology "A soul is not exclusive to biology."