From nvasiliev@cmu.edu Thu Apr 20 13:28:01 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!cmu!nvasiliev From: nvasiliev@cmu.edu (Nadia Vasiliev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:28:01 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 Tracing the address decoder lines on the motherboard reveals what was supposed to be in socket U14. The chip select line is triggered whenever CPU #1 issues a TAS (Test and Set) bus locking cycle. This indicates socket U14 held a cryptographic S-box lookup table for decrypting the Stardust keystream. Does anyone have a 27C256 EPROM marked 'MH-U14' or 'ORION-CRYPTO'? -- Nadia Vasiliev -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Hold for relay." From jtanaka@ox.ac.uk Sat Apr 22 09:01:01 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!ox!jtanaka From: jtanaka@ox.ac.uk (Jen Tanaka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 09:01:01 GMT References: <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu>, nvasiliev@cmu.edu (Nadia Vasiliev) writes: > Tracing the address decoder lines on the motherboard reveals what was supposed to be in socket U14. Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. -- === Jen Tanaka === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Oxford University Computing Laboratory "Hold for relay." From tramirez@berkeley.edu Sat Apr 22 20:52:01 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!berkeley!tramirez From: tramirez@berkeley.edu (Tyler Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Apr22.205201.1680@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:52:01 GMT References: <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu> <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk>, jtanaka@ox.ac.uk (Jen Tanaka) writes: > Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- Tyler Ramírez -- UC Berkeley Department of EECS "We don't sign stars. We build them." From meriksson@illinois.edu Sun Apr 23 15:37:01 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!illinois!meriksson From: meriksson@illinois.edu (Mateo Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Apr23.153701.8551@illinois.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 15:37:01 GMT References: <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu> <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk>, jtanaka@ox.ac.uk (Jen Tanaka) writes: > Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Mateo Eriksson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From kpark@cern.ch Mon Apr 24 10:57:01 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cern!kpark From: kpark@cern.ch (Kirsty Park) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Apr24.105701.9345@cern.ch> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:57:01 GMT References: <1995Apr20.132801.2353@cmu.edu> <1995Apr22.090101.5455@ox.ac.uk> <1995Apr22.205201.1680@berkeley.edu> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Apr22.205201.1680@berkeley.edu>, tramirez@berkeley.edu (Tyler Ramírez) writes: > If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Kirsty Park Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.