From lsato@delphi.com Sun Dec 10 04:04:02 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!delphi!lsato From: lsato@delphi.com (Lisa Sato) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Discussion: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Dec10.040402.7806@delphi.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 04:04:02 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. Without U14, the board can track the 14.2 Hz carrier, but cannot descramble the binary payload of Nodes 11 through 14. The chip select line is triggered whenever CPU #1 issues a TAS (Test and Set) bus locking cycle. Does anyone have a 27C256 EPROM marked 'MH-U14' or 'ORION-CRYPTO'? -- Lisa Sato | lsato@delphi.com PGP Key fingerprint: CDE1 00D2 13B0 5FFC "Keep the channels open." From kgarcia@delphi.com Mon Dec 11 16:15:02 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!delphi!kgarcia From: kgarcia@delphi.com (Kenji García) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Discussion: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Dec11.161502.7595@delphi.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 16:15:02 GMT References: <1995Dec10.040402.7806@delphi.com> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Dec10.040402.7806@delphi.com>, lsato@delphi.com (Lisa Sato) writes: > Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. > Without U14, the board can track the 14.2 Hz carrier, but cannot descramble the binary payload of Nodes 11 through 14. Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. -- Kenji García | kgarcia@delphi.com PGP Key fingerprint: F0C1 4A12 C723 A19F "Keep the channels open." From igirard@pacbell.net Mon Dec 11 22:45:02 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!pacbell!igirard From: igirard@pacbell.net (Ines Girard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Discussion: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Dec11.224502.2066@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:45:02 GMT References: <1995Dec10.040402.7806@delphi.com> <1995Dec11.161502.7595@delphi.com> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec11.161502.7595@delphi.com>, kgarcia@delphi.com (Kenji García) writes: > Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- Ines Girard Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Pacific Bell Internet Services. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jweber@kiae.su Tue Dec 12 08:20:02 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kiae!jweber From: jweber@kiae.su (Julien Weber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Discussion: Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Dec12.082002.3350@kiae.su> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:20:02 GMT References: <1995Dec10.040402.7806@delphi.com> <1995Dec11.161502.7595@delphi.com> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec11.161502.7595@delphi.com>, kgarcia@delphi.com (Kenji García) writes: > Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- Julien Weber Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow. ------------------------------------------------------------