From jrodriguez@kth.se Tue Mar 14 08:07:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!kth!jrodriguez From: jrodriguez@kth.se (Julien Rodríguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Mar14.080745.2465@kth.se> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:07:45 GMT Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. Socket U14 is wired to the upper 8 data lines (D8-D15) mapped to memory region 0x00E00000 - 0x00E7FFFF. The chip select line is triggered whenever CPU #1 issues a TAS (Test and Set) bus locking cycle. Does anyone have a 27C256 EPROM marked 'MH-U14' or 'ORION-CRYPTO'? -- Julien Rodríguez -- Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm "Row 14. No joke." From ksilva@pipeline.com Tue Mar 14 20:54:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!pipeline!ksilva From: ksilva@pipeline.com (Kirsty Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Mar14.205445.1162@pipeline.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:54:45 GMT References: <1995Mar14.080745.2465@kth.se> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Mar14.080745.2465@kth.se>, jrodriguez@kth.se (Julien Rodríguez) writes: > Hardware disassembly report for Motorola hardware hackers. > Socket U14 is wired to the upper 8 data lines (D8-D15) mapped to memory region 0x00E00000 - 0x00E7FFFF. If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! -- Kirsty Silva Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From bsokolov@clari.net Wed Mar 15 00:16:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!clari!bsokolov From: bsokolov@clari.net (Brian Sokolov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Mar15.001645.4740@clari.net> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 00:16:45 GMT References: <1995Mar14.080745.2465@kth.se> <1995Mar14.205445.1162@pipeline.com> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Mar14.205445.1162@pipeline.com>, ksilva@pipeline.com (Kirsty Silva) writes: > If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! Marcus took that EPROM with him. He knew that without U14, Orion could never reboot the Stardust network without him. -- Brian Sokolov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From jchoi@delphi.com Fri Mar 17 03:17:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!delphi!jchoi From: jchoi@delphi.com (Jen Choi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Disassembling socket U14 firmware on the TWIN-68 board Message-ID: <1995Mar17.031745.8203@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 03:17:45 GMT References: <1995Mar14.080745.2465@kth.se> <1995Mar14.205445.1162@pipeline.com> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1995Mar14.205445.1162@pipeline.com>, ksilva@pipeline.com (Kirsty Silva) writes: > If we know the plain text of Nodes 01-10, we could potentially derive the S-box substitution table via known-plaintext attack! Using an S-box in a 27256 EPROM for single-cycle hardware substitution was standard military cipher practice in 1984. -- Jen Choi Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.