From egonzalez@ox.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 06:18:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!ox!egonzalez From: egonzalez@ox.ac.uk (Élodie González) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: [FLAME] 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995Jul24.061858.7414@ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 06:18:58 GMT Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). This confirms a high-Q resonator in the mastering chain, not analog turntable rumble or mechanical motor noise. Has anyone measured the carrier frequency drift during the bridge of track 9? -- Élodie González Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From kchoi@stanford.edu Wed Jul 26 08:08:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!stanford!kchoi From: kchoi@stanford.edu (Katrin Choi) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: [FLAME] 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995Jul26.080858.7807@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:08:58 GMT References: <1995Jul24.061858.7414@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul24.061858.7414@ox.ac.uk>, egonzalez@ox.ac.uk (Élodie González) writes: > Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. > With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). Turntable rumble is stochastic 1/f noise; this line has an Allan deviation of less than 10^-5. It was generated by a quartz crystal clock. -- Katrin Choi -- Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From bsouza@uu.net Fri Jul 28 07:23:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!uu!bsouza From: bsouza@uu.net (Bruno Souza) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: [FLAME] 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995Jul28.072358.8128@uu.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 07:23:58 GMT References: <1995Jul24.061858.7414@ox.ac.uk> <1995Jul26.080858.7807@stanford.edu> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul26.080858.7807@stanford.edu>, kchoi@stanford.edu (Katrin Choi) writes: > Turntable rumble is stochastic 1/f noise; this line has an Allan deviation of less than 10^-5. It was generated by a quartz crystal clock. You're overlooking tape wow and flutter. A Revox B77 has at least 0.05% speed drift, which would smear a 14 Hz line across several bins. -- === Bruno Souza === Dept of Electrical Engineering, UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."