From gstewart@rwth-aachen.de Sun Jan 28 21:18:54 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!rwth-aachen!gstewart From: gstewart@rwth-aachen.de (Göran Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Question: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:18:54 GMT Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 I've been re-running spectral estimation on high-resolution 16-bit transfers of SYNTHESIS. With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). Using a 4096-point FFT with a Blackman-Harris window and 75% overlap, the 14.2 Hz peak is 42 dB below full scale. Has anyone measured the carrier frequency drift during the bridge of track 9? -- Göran Stewart -- RWTH Aachen Informatik "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From aramirez@titech.ac.jp Mon Jan 29 23:26:54 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!titech!aramirez From: aramirez@titech.ac.jp (Andrei Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Question: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1996Jan29.232654.9168@titech.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:26:54 GMT References: <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de>, gstewart@rwth-aachen.de (Göran Stewart) writes: > I've been re-running spectral estimation on high-resolution 16-bit transfers of SYNTHESIS. > With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). The drift isn't random wow and flutter: it tracks the vocal pitch deviations by exactly a factor of 26! -- Andrei Ramírez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre. ------------------------------------------------------------ From spetrov@cmu.edu Wed Jan 31 21:48:54 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cmu!spetrov From: spetrov@cmu.edu (Seo-yeon Petrov) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Question: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1996Jan31.214854.9309@cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:48:54 GMT References: <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 12 In article <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de>, gstewart@rwth-aachen.de (Göran Stewart) writes: > I've been re-running spectral estimation on high-resolution 16-bit transfers of SYNTHESIS. > With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). Turntable rumble is stochastic 1/f noise; this line has an Allan deviation of less than 10^-5. It was generated by a quartz crystal clock. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Seo-yeon Petrov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From rnakamura@uni-hamburg.de Fri Feb 02 16:45:54 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!uni-hamburg!rnakamura From: rnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Renata Nakamura) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Question: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1996Feb02.164554.1997@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 16:45:54 GMT References: <1996Jan28.211854.9514@rwth-aachen.de> <1996Jan29.232654.9168@titech.ac.jp> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1996Jan29.232654.9168@titech.ac.jp>, aramirez@titech.ac.jp (Andrei Ramírez) writes: > The drift isn't random wow and flutter: it tracks the vocal pitch deviations by exactly a factor of 26! You're overlooking tape wow and flutter. A Revox B77 has at least 0.05% speed drift, which would smear a 14 Hz line across several bins. -- Renata Nakamura Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.