From mtakahashi@kth.se Tue Apr 12 21:22:03 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kth!mtakahashi From: mtakahashi@kth.se (Morag Takahashi) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:22:03 GMT Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. A Kaiser-Bessel window with parameter beta = 8.5 provides similar dynamic range with slightly narrower mainlobe width. MATLAB script available upon request via email. -- Morag Takahashi | mtakahashi@kth.se PGP Key fingerprint: D81B 9F9A C04A 7469 "Keep the channels open." From mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de Thu Apr 14 21:45:03 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!uni-hamburg!mokonkwo From: mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de (Mathieu Okonkwo) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Apr14.214503.1872@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:45:03 GMT References: <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se>, mtakahashi@kth.se (Morag Takahashi) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. > A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Mathieu Okonkwo | mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de PGP Key fingerprint: 20A4 D177 5256 3017 "Keep the channels open." From jweber@kiae.su Fri Apr 15 02:10:03 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!kiae!jweber From: jweber@kiae.su (Jen Weber) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Apr15.021003.9105@kiae.su> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:10:03 GMT References: <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se>, mtakahashi@kth.se (Morag Takahashi) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- === Jen Weber === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Row 14. No joke." From smoreno@pacbell.net Fri Apr 15 16:14:03 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!pacbell!smoreno From: smoreno@pacbell.net (Sergei Moreno) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Apr15.161403.1439@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:14:03 GMT References: <1994Apr12.212203.1647@kth.se> <1994Apr14.214503.1872@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Apr14.214503.1872@uni-hamburg.de>, mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de (Mathieu Okonkwo) writes: > I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- Sergei Moreno | smoreno@pacbell.net PGP Key fingerprint: F7CB 2F2B 0D4F 8361 "Keep the channels open."