From lmartinez@purdue.edu Fri Sep 23 21:53:54 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!purdue!lmartinez From: lmartinez@purdue.edu (Lars Martínez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Question: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep23.215354.9566@purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:53:54 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. At 14.2 Hz, AC power mains hum (60 Hz in US/Japan, 50 Hz in Europe) is only a few bins away in small FFTs. Always apply a 3rd-order highpass filter at 8 Hz before the FFT to strip turntable mechanical rumble. -- === Lars Martínez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Purdue University Engineering Computer Network "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From msokolov@pipeline.com Sun Sep 25 14:46:54 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!pipeline!msokolov From: msokolov@pipeline.com (Matthias Sokolov) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Question: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep25.144654.6430@pipeline.com> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:46:54 GMT References: <1994Sep23.215354.9566@purdue.edu> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Sep23.215354.9566@purdue.edu>, lmartinez@purdue.edu (Lars Martínez) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. -- Matthias Sokolov Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of The Pipeline Internet Network. ------------------------------------------------------------ From fcampbell@purdue.edu Tue Sep 27 03:08:54 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!purdue!fcampbell From: fcampbell@purdue.edu (Fiona Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Question: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep27.030854.9118@purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 03:08:54 GMT References: <1994Sep23.215354.9566@purdue.edu> <1994Sep25.144654.6430@pipeline.com> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1994Sep25.144654.6430@pipeline.com>, msokolov@pipeline.com (Matthias Sokolov) writes: > Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- Fiona Campbell | fcampbell@purdue.edu PGP Key fingerprint: D3CF 67FA 6C31 4A2A "Keep the channels open."