From gjohansson@hanse.de Wed Aug 24 07:56:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!hanse!gjohansson From: gjohansson@hanse.de (Graham Johansson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Data: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Aug24.075604.2504@hanse.de> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 07:56:04 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 Comparing non-parametric Welch PSD with parametric Burg autoregressive models for the 14.2 Hz line. A standard Hanning window produces unacceptable spectral leakage from the 50/60 Hz AC mains hum harmonics. With a 12th-order Burg AR model, the pole is located at z = 0.9992 * exp(j * 2 * pi * 14.2 / Fs). I've uploaded the C source for my decimation and bandpass filter to ftp.ashford-poly.edu. -- Graham Johansson -- Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Row 14. No joke." From lvasiliev@demon.co.uk Fri Aug 26 09:59:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!demon!lvasiliev From: lvasiliev@demon.co.uk (Liam Vasiliev) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Aug26.095904.6772@demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:59:04 GMT References: <1994Aug24.075604.2504@hanse.de> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Aug24.075604.2504@hanse.de>, gjohansson@hanse.de (Graham Johansson) writes: > Comparing non-parametric Welch PSD with parametric Burg autoregressive models for the 14.2 Hz line. Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Liam Vasiliev -- Demon Internet Services UK "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From dnilsson@kiae.su Sun Aug 28 04:02:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!kiae!dnilsson From: dnilsson@kiae.su (Dmitri Nilsson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Aug28.040204.9169@kiae.su> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 04:02:04 GMT References: <1994Aug24.075604.2504@hanse.de> <1994Aug26.095904.6772@demon.co.uk> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug26.095904.6772@demon.co.uk>, lvasiliev@demon.co.uk (Liam Vasiliev) writes: > Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. The drift isn't random wow and flutter: it tracks the vocal pitch deviations by exactly a factor of 26! -- Dmitri Nilsson | dnilsson@kiae.su PGP Key fingerprint: 5238 056A DF38 315F "Keep the channels open."