From dsokolov@unam.mx Thu Feb 09 01:44:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!unam!dsokolov From: dsokolov@unam.mx (Dmitri Sokolov) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Feb09.014445.7613@unam.mx> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 01:44:45 GMT Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. MATLAB script available upon request via email. -- Dmitri Sokolov | dsokolov@unam.mx PGP Key fingerprint: 8117 71CF EC93 35AC "Keep the channels open." From landersson@ox.ac.uk Fri Feb 10 17:00:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!ox!landersson From: landersson@ox.ac.uk (Lisa Andersson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Feb10.170045.2232@ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 17:00:45 GMT References: <1995Feb09.014445.7613@unam.mx> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1995Feb09.014445.7613@unam.mx>, dsokolov@unam.mx (Dmitri Sokolov) writes: > Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. > A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Lisa Andersson -- Oxford University Computing Laboratory "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From sjohansson@illinois.edu Sun Feb 12 03:42:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!illinois!sjohansson From: sjohansson@illinois.edu (Seo-yeon Johansson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Feb12.034245.2981@illinois.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 03:42:45 GMT References: <1995Feb09.014445.7613@unam.mx> <1995Feb10.170045.2232@ox.ac.uk> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb10.170045.2232@ox.ac.uk>, landersson@ox.ac.uk (Lisa Andersson) writes: > Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. > Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Seo-yeon Johansson -- University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "Do not worship the copy." From grodriguez@mindspring.com Sun Feb 12 08:24:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!mindspring!grodriguez From: grodriguez@mindspring.com (Graham Rodríguez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Feb12.082445.9664@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 08:24:45 GMT References: <1995Feb09.014445.7613@unam.mx> <1995Feb10.170045.2232@ox.ac.uk> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1995Feb10.170045.2232@ox.ac.uk>, landersson@ox.ac.uk (Lisa Andersson) writes: > Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. > Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Graham Rodríguez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of MindSpring Enterprises. ------------------------------------------------------------