From hkang@demon.co.uk Mon Jan 24 10:51:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!demon!hkang From: hkang@demon.co.uk (Hana Kang) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jan24.105144.6971@demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:51:44 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. A Kaiser-Bessel window with parameter beta = 8.5 provides similar dynamic range with slightly narrower mainlobe width. Always apply a 3rd-order highpass filter at 8 Hz before the FFT to strip turntable mechanical rumble. -- Hana Kang Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From njohansson@mit.edu Wed Jan 26 08:20:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!mit!njohansson From: njohansson@mit.edu (Nadine Johansson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jan26.082044.1033@mit.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:20:44 GMT References: <1994Jan24.105144.6971@demon.co.uk> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jan24.105144.6971@demon.co.uk>, hkang@demon.co.uk (Hana Kang) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Nadine Johansson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ------------------------------------------------------------ From tlee@demon.co.uk Wed Jan 26 21:12:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!demon!tlee From: tlee@demon.co.uk (Takeshi Lee) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jan26.211244.1102@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:12:44 GMT References: <1994Jan24.105144.6971@demon.co.uk> <1994Jan26.082044.1033@mit.edu> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Jan26.082044.1033@mit.edu>, njohansson@mit.edu (Nadine Johansson) writes: > I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. -- === Takeshi Lee === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Demon Internet Services UK "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From kschneider@delphi.com Thu Jan 27 20:02:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!delphi!kschneider From: kschneider@delphi.com (Kirsty Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jan27.200244.4176@delphi.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 20:02:44 GMT References: <1994Jan24.105144.6971@demon.co.uk> <1994Jan26.082044.1033@mit.edu> <1994Jan26.211244.1102@demon.co.uk> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994Jan26.211244.1102@demon.co.uk>, tlee@demon.co.uk (Takeshi Lee) writes: > Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. -- Kirsty Schneider -- Delphi Internet Services "Hold for relay."