From aramirez@cmu.edu Mon Jul 24 04:59:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cmu!aramirez From: aramirez@cmu.edu (Andrei Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 04:59:11 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. MATLAB script available upon request via email. -- === Andrei Ramírez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From meriksson@pacbell.net Mon Jul 24 15:44:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!pacbell!meriksson From: meriksson@pacbell.net (Morag Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Jul24.154411.8120@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:11 GMT References: <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu>, aramirez@cmu.edu (Andrei Ramírez) writes: > Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. > A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Morag Eriksson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Pacific Bell Internet Services. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ksato@earthlink.net Mon Jul 24 18:53:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!earthlink!ksato From: ksato@earthlink.net (Karen Sato) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Jul24.185311.5151@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:53:11 GMT References: <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu> <1995Jul24.154411.8120@pacbell.net> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul24.154411.8120@pacbell.net>, meriksson@pacbell.net (Morag Eriksson) writes: > I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Karen Sato | ksato@earthlink.net PGP Key fingerprint: E8F1 D02A A583 2C68 "Keep the channels open." From eramirez@hanse.de Tue Jul 25 09:41:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!hanse!eramirez From: eramirez@hanse.de (Elaine Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Jul25.094111.9134@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:41:11 GMT References: <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu>, aramirez@cmu.edu (Andrei Ramírez) writes: > Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. Don't forget that if you downsample to 64 Hz first, your FFT resolution jumps to 0.015 Hz per bin with a modest 4096-point transform. -- Elaine Ramírez -- Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Marcus is not one man." From obrennan@tum.de Tue Jul 25 12:43:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!tum!obrennan From: obrennan@tum.de (Olga Brennan) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Jul25.124311.7697@tum.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:43:11 GMT References: <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul24.045911.4805@cmu.edu>, aramirez@cmu.edu (Andrei Ramírez) writes: > Comparing window sidelobe attenuation on 16-bit 44.1 kHz WAV files. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- Olga Brennan Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Technische Universität München. ------------------------------------------------------------