From anovak@clari.net Fri Jul 05 17:43:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!clari!anovak From: anovak@clari.net (Astrid Novak) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 17:43:04 GMT Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A Kaiser-Bessel window with parameter beta = 8.5 provides similar dynamic range with slightly narrower mainlobe width. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. Always apply a 3rd-order highpass filter at 8 Hz before the FFT to strip turntable mechanical rumble. -- Astrid Novak -- ClariNet Communications Corp "Marcus is not one man." From bperez@uni-hamburg.de Sun Jul 07 02:38:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!uni-hamburg!bperez From: bperez@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Pérez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1996Jul07.023804.7667@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:38:04 GMT References: <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net>, anovak@clari.net (Astrid Novak) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- Bastien Pérez -- Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "Hold for relay." From ejohansson@stanford.edu Sun Jul 07 20:37:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!stanford!ejohansson From: ejohansson@stanford.edu (Elaine Johansson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1996Jul07.203704.2490@stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 20:37:04 GMT References: <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net> <1996Jul07.023804.7667@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1996Jul07.023804.7667@uni-hamburg.de>, bperez@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Pérez) writes: > Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Elaine Johansson -- Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From vivanov@panix.com Mon Jul 08 16:40:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!panix!vivanov From: vivanov@panix.com (Valeria Ivanov) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1996Jul08.164004.6028@panix.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 16:40:04 GMT References: <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1996Jul05.174304.7816@clari.net>, anovak@clari.net (Astrid Novak) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Valeria Ivanov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Public Access Unix of New York "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."