From jgirard@illinois.edu Sat Sep 17 20:10:39 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!illinois!jgirard From: jgirard@illinois.edu (Julien Girard) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Data: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 20:10:39 GMT Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 A quick note on window function selection when hunting for the 14.2 Hz line in noisy vinyl rips. At 14.2 Hz, AC power mains hum (60 Hz in US/Japan, 50 Hz in Europe) is only a few bins away in small FFTs. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. Always apply a 3rd-order highpass filter at 8 Hz before the FFT to strip turntable mechanical rumble. -- === Julien Girard === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From srodriguez@uni-hamburg.de Sun Sep 18 21:47:39 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!uni-hamburg!srodriguez From: srodriguez@uni-hamburg.de (Sergei Rodríguez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep18.214739.5638@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 21:47:39 GMT References: <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu>, jgirard@illinois.edu (Julien Girard) writes: > A quick note on window function selection when hunting for the 14.2 Hz line in noisy vinyl rips. > At 14.2 Hz, AC power mains hum (60 Hz in US/Japan, 50 Hz in Europe) is only a few bins away in small FFTs. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- === Sergei Rodríguez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "Marcus is not one man." From dramirez@hanse.de Mon Sep 19 11:56:39 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!hanse!dramirez From: dramirez@hanse.de (Dong-hyun Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep19.115639.1269@hanse.de> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:56:39 GMT References: <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu>, jgirard@illinois.edu (Julien Girard) writes: > A quick note on window function selection when hunting for the 14.2 Hz line in noisy vinyl rips. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- === Dong-hyun Ramírez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From dschneider@clari.net Wed Sep 21 15:44:39 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!clari!dschneider From: dschneider@clari.net (Dong-hyun Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep21.154439.2820@clari.net> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:44:39 GMT References: <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu>, jgirard@illinois.edu (Julien Girard) writes: > A quick note on window function selection when hunting for the 14.2 Hz line in noisy vinyl rips. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Dong-hyun Schneider | dschneider@clari.net PGP Key fingerprint: AC5A 4F09 30E6 9538 "Keep the channels open." From egirard@cmu.edu Wed Sep 21 18:58:39 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cmu!egirard From: egirard@cmu.edu (Elaine Girard) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Data: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Sep21.185839.1314@cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:58:39 GMT References: <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1994Sep17.201039.9843@illinois.edu>, jgirard@illinois.edu (Julien Girard) writes: > A quick note on window function selection when hunting for the 14.2 Hz line in noisy vinyl rips. > At 14.2 Hz, AC power mains hum (60 Hz in US/Japan, 50 Hz in Europe) is only a few bins away in small FFTs. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Elaine Girard -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Marcus is not one man."