From periksson@pacbell.net Wed May 17 07:25:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!pacbell!periksson From: periksson@pacbell.net (Pavel Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 07:25:48 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. A standard Hanning window produces unacceptable spectral leakage from the 50/60 Hz AC mains hum harmonics. Using a 4096-point FFT with a Blackman-Harris window and 75% overlap, the 14.2 Hz peak is 42 dB below full scale. I've uploaded the C source for my decimation and bandpass filter to ftp.ashford-poly.edu. -- === Pavel Eriksson === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Pacific Bell Internet Services "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From tsato@panix.com Wed May 17 14:19:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!panix!tsato From: tsato@panix.com (Tyler Sato) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995May17.141948.5363@panix.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 14:19:48 GMT References: <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net>, periksson@pacbell.net (Pavel Eriksson) writes: > Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. Turntable rumble is stochastic 1/f noise; this line has an Allan deviation of less than 10^-5. It was generated by a quartz crystal clock. -- Tyler Sato Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Public Access Unix of New York. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ktakahashi@uni-hamburg.de Fri May 19 08:52:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!uni-hamburg!ktakahashi From: ktakahashi@uni-hamburg.de (Karen Takahashi) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995May19.085248.5228@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:52:48 GMT References: <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net>, periksson@pacbell.net (Pavel Eriksson) writes: > Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. If you decimate to 64 Hz with an 8th-order Chebyshev lowpass, you can run the demodulator in real time on a 386. -- Karen Takahashi Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From icampbell@uni-hamburg.de Sun May 21 00:44:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!uni-hamburg!icampbell From: icampbell@uni-hamburg.de (Ines Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995May21.004448.6054@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 00:44:48 GMT References: <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net>, periksson@pacbell.net (Pavel Eriksson) writes: > Technical analysis of the sub-audible carrier: data and MATLAB code below. Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. -- === Ines Campbell === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From ttanaka@cern.ch Tue May 23 04:03:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cern!ttanaka From: ttanaka@cern.ch (Tobias Tanaka) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1995May23.040348.6331@cern.ch> Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 04:03:48 GMT References: <1995May17.072548.1014@pacbell.net> <1995May21.004448.6054@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1995May21.004448.6054@uni-hamburg.de>, icampbell@uni-hamburg.de (Ines Campbell) writes: > Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. Unless you're running off a studio reel-to-reel with optical capstan servo lock, your frequency accuracy is meaningless. -- Tobias Tanaka Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.