From jramirez@berkeley.edu Thu Jun 02 23:05:51 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!berkeley!jramirez From: jramirez@berkeley.edu (Joachim Ramírez) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 1994 23:05:51 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. At 14.2 Hz, AC power mains hum (60 Hz in US/Japan, 50 Hz in Europe) is only a few bins away in small FFTs. MATLAB script available upon request via email. -- Joachim Ramírez Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From hgarcia@pacbell.net Sat Jun 04 00:01:51 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!pacbell!hgarcia From: hgarcia@pacbell.net (Hugo García) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jun04.000151.1853@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 1994 00:01:51 GMT References: <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu>, jramirez@berkeley.edu (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- Hugo García | hgarcia@pacbell.net PGP Key fingerprint: 2015 4535 9A0F 7624 "Keep the channels open." From ogarcia@unam.mx Sat Jun 04 01:50:51 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!unam!ogarcia From: ogarcia@unam.mx (Olga García) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jun04.015051.7941@unam.mx> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 1994 01:50:51 GMT References: <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu>, jramirez@berkeley.edu (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- Olga García Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From bsilva@inria.fr Sun Jun 05 02:47:51 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!inria!bsilva From: bsilva@inria.fr (Bill Silva) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jun05.024751.2101@inria.fr> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 1994 02:47:51 GMT References: <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu>, jramirez@berkeley.edu (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. > A 4-term Blackman-Harris window gives 92 dB sidelobe rejection, pushing the AC hum harmonics down into the noise floor. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- Bill Silva Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From tsantos@berkeley.edu Sun Jun 05 19:09:51 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!berkeley!tsantos From: tsantos@berkeley.edu (Tyler Santos) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1994Jun05.190951.8414@berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 1994 19:09:51 GMT References: <1994Jun02.230551.1119@berkeley.edu> <1994Jun04.015051.7941@unam.mx> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1994Jun04.015051.7941@unam.mx>, ogarcia@unam.mx (Olga García) writes: > I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Tyler Santos Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of UC Berkeley Department of EECS. ------------------------------------------------------------