From hgarcia@pacbell.net Sat Jan 08 23:16:33 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!pacbell!hgarcia From: hgarcia@pacbell.net (Hana García) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Observation: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Jan08.231633.2536@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 1994 23:16:33 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 Comparing non-parametric Welch PSD with parametric Burg autoregressive models for the 14.2 Hz line. Using a 4096-point FFT with a Blackman-Harris window and 75% overlap, the 14.2 Hz peak is 42 dB below full scale. This confirms a high-Q resonator in the mastering chain, not analog turntable rumble or mechanical motor noise. Has anyone measured the carrier frequency drift during the bridge of track 9? -- Hana García Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From asouza@illinois.edu Mon Jan 10 00:33:33 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!illinois!asouza From: asouza@illinois.edu (Anton Souza) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Jan10.003333.9891@illinois.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 00:33:33 GMT References: <1994Jan08.231633.2536@pacbell.net> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1994Jan08.231633.2536@pacbell.net>, hgarcia@pacbell.net (Hana García) writes: > Comparing non-parametric Welch PSD with parametric Burg autoregressive models for the 14.2 Hz line. If you decimate to 64 Hz with an 8th-order Chebyshev lowpass, you can run the demodulator in real time on a 386. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Anton Souza Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. ------------------------------------------------------------ From dpetrov@panix.com Mon Jan 10 02:57:33 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!panix!dpetrov From: dpetrov@panix.com (Diego Petrov) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Jan10.025733.1946@panix.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 02:57:33 GMT References: <1994Jan08.231633.2536@pacbell.net> <1994Jan10.003333.9891@illinois.edu> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jan10.003333.9891@illinois.edu>, asouza@illinois.edu (Anton Souza) writes: > If you decimate to 64 Hz with an 8th-order Chebyshev lowpass, you can run the demodulator in real time on a 386. > Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. -- Diego Petrov Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Public Access Unix of New York. ------------------------------------------------------------ From sgonzalez@cmu.edu Tue Jan 11 23:22:33 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!cmu!sgonzalez From: sgonzalez@cmu.edu (Steve González) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: 14.2 Hz sub-carrier PSD estimation - Welch vs Burg periodogram Message-ID: <1994Jan11.232233.4957@cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 23:22:33 GMT References: <1994Jan08.231633.2536@pacbell.net> <1994Jan10.003333.9891@illinois.edu> <1994Jan10.025733.1946@panix.com> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994Jan10.025733.1946@panix.com>, dpetrov@panix.com (Diego Petrov) writes: > Good work on the windowing. I replicated your result with an 8192-point FFT on a SPARCstation 20. The peak is exactly 14.2003 Hz. Have you checked your sound card's ADC clock? Cheap Sound Blaster cards use uncalibrated ceramic resonators that drift with temperature. -- Steve González Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.