From dhernandez@stanford.edu Fri Oct 27 14:36:28 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!stanford!dhernandez From: dhernandez@stanford.edu (Dmitri Hernández) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Oct27.143628.4597@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:36:28 GMT Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. A Kaiser-Bessel window with parameter beta = 8.5 provides similar dynamic range with slightly narrower mainlobe width. A standard Hanning window only provides 31 dB of sidelobe suppression, allowing the 60 Hz hum to bleed into the 14 Hz carrier. Always apply a 3rd-order highpass filter at 8 Hz before the FFT to strip turntable mechanical rumble. -- === Dmitri Hernández === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From lbrennan@earthlink.net Sat Oct 28 01:38:28 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!earthlink!lbrennan From: lbrennan@earthlink.net (Lars Brennan) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Oct28.013828.1094@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 01:38:28 GMT References: <1995Oct27.143628.4597@stanford.edu> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct27.143628.4597@stanford.edu>, dhernandez@stanford.edu (Dmitri Hernández) writes: > Don't use rectangular or Bartlett windows if you want reliable PSD estimates around 14 Hz. > A Kaiser-Bessel window with parameter beta = 8.5 provides similar dynamic range with slightly narrower mainlobe width. Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. -- === Lars Brennan === Dept of Electrical Engineering, EarthLink Network "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From bfournier@hanse.de Sun Oct 29 00:20:28 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!hanse!bfournier From: bfournier@hanse.de (Bastien Fournier) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Observation: Sidelobe leakage in Blackman-Harris vs Kaiser-Bessel windows for sub-carrier Message-ID: <1995Oct29.002028.7520@hanse.de> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 00:20:28 GMT References: <1995Oct27.143628.4597@stanford.edu> <1995Oct28.013828.1094@earthlink.net> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct28.013828.1094@earthlink.net>, lbrennan@earthlink.net (Lars Brennan) writes: > Excellent advice on the Blackman-Harris window. Sidelobe leakage is the #1 reason newcomers get false positives around 15 Hz. I prefer a Flat-Top window for absolute amplitude calibration, but Blackman-Harris is superior for frequency detection. -- === Bastien Fournier === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."