From tsuzuki@u-tokyo.ac.jp Mon May 02 23:48:40 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!u-tokyo!tsuzuki From: tsuzuki@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Takeshi Suzuki) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 23:48:40 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Takeshi Suzuki "Hold for relay." Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) / SunOS 4.1.4 From oreyes@demon.co.uk Wed May 04 07:23:40 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!demon!oreyes From: oreyes@demon.co.uk (Olga Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994May04.072340.5805@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 07:23:40 GMT References: <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 12 In article <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, tsuzuki@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Takeshi Suzuki) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Olga Reyes Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Demon Internet Services UK. ------------------------------------------------------------ From randersson@kiae.su Fri May 06 08:39:40 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kiae!randersson From: randersson@kiae.su (Raj Andersson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994May06.083940.1756@kiae.su> Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 08:39:40 GMT References: <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1994May04.072340.5805@demon.co.uk> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1994May04.072340.5805@demon.co.uk>, oreyes@demon.co.uk (Olga Reyes) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Raj Andersson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From tsmirnov@earthlink.net Sat May 07 10:01:40 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!earthlink!tsmirnov From: tsmirnov@earthlink.net (Tyler Smirnov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994May07.100140.1372@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 1994 10:01:40 GMT References: <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, tsuzuki@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Takeshi Suzuki) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Tyler Smirnov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From tvasiliev@uni-hamburg.de Sun May 08 02:14:40 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!uni-hamburg!tvasiliev From: tvasiliev@uni-hamburg.de (Tomas Vasiliev) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994May08.021440.7687@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 08 May 1994 02:14:40 GMT References: <1994May02.234840.7126@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1994May07.100140.1372@earthlink.net> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994May07.100140.1372@earthlink.net>, tsmirnov@earthlink.net (Tyler Smirnov) writes: > The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Tomas Vasiliev -- Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."