From flee@demon.co.uk Fri Aug 09 12:35:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!demon!flee From: flee@demon.co.uk (Freya Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:35:22 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Freya Lee US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 28,800 bps "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From nweber@kth.se Sun Aug 11 12:41:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!kth!nweber From: nweber@kth.se (Nadine Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug11.124122.7587@kth.se> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 12:41:22 GMT References: <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk>, flee@demon.co.uk (Freya Lee) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Nadine Weber | nweber@kth.se PGP Key fingerprint: 650A B9D0 24A9 F2E4 "Keep the channels open." From hpark@uni-hamburg.de Mon Aug 12 05:35:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!uni-hamburg!hpark From: hpark@uni-hamburg.de (Heather Park) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug12.053522.4512@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 05:35:22 GMT References: <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk>, flee@demon.co.uk (Freya Lee) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Heather Park *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Atari Falcon 030 - NetBSD 1.0 From jsato@illinois.edu Wed Aug 14 08:30:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!illinois!jsato From: jsato@illinois.edu (Joachim Sato) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug14.083022.7967@illinois.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:30:22 GMT References: <1996Aug09.123522.1654@demon.co.uk> <1996Aug12.053522.4512@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1996Aug12.053522.4512@uni-hamburg.de>, hpark@uni-hamburg.de (Heather Park) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Joachim Sato | jsato@illinois.edu PGP Key fingerprint: B566 BD4C 1DE5 3D6F "Keep the channels open."