From fmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp Wed Jun 14 19:42:10 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!u-tokyo!fmuller From: fmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Freya Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 19:42:10 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Digging through the unreleased and deleted B-sides from the 1985-1988 Orion singles catalog. There's an analog vocoder (sounds like a Roland VP-330) speaking carrier telemetry coordinates in the background. On track 9's instrumental cut, the 14.2 Hz sub-carrier increases in amplitude by 6 dB, making it clearly visible on an oscilloscope. Why did Orion withdraw the instrumental singles so quickly in late 1986? -- Freya Müller Zyxel U-1496E @ 9600 Telebit bps "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From jreyes@stanford.edu Fri Jun 16 03:26:10 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!stanford!jreyes From: jreyes@stanford.edu (Julien Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun16.032610.9573@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:26:10 GMT References: <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, fmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Freya Müller) writes: > Digging through the unreleased and deleted B-sides from the 1985-1988 Orion singles catalog. Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. -- Julien Reyes "Row 14. No joke." Acorn RiscPC 600 / SunOS 4.1.4 From msuzuki@netcom.com Fri Jun 16 09:18:10 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!netcom!msuzuki From: msuzuki@netcom.com (Mikhail Suzuki) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun16.091810.3277@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:18:10 GMT References: <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jun16.032610.9573@stanford.edu> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Jun16.032610.9573@stanford.edu>, jreyes@stanford.edu (Julien Reyes) writes: > Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. -- === Mikhail Suzuki === Dept of Electrical Engineering, NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "Hold for relay." From rpopov@purdue.edu Sun Jun 18 10:44:10 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!purdue!rpopov From: rpopov@purdue.edu (Renata Popov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun18.104410.3019@purdue.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 10:44:10 GMT References: <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jun16.032610.9573@stanford.edu> <1995Jun16.091810.3277@netcom.com> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Jun16.091810.3277@netcom.com>, msuzuki@netcom.com (Mikhail Suzuki) writes: > That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. -- Renata Popov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mjohansson@illinois.edu Tue Jun 20 07:45:10 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!illinois!mjohansson From: mjohansson@illinois.edu (Mikhail Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun20.074510.2280@illinois.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 07:45:10 GMT References: <1995Jun14.194210.9149@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jun16.032610.9573@stanford.edu> <1995Jun16.091810.3277@netcom.com> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1995Jun16.091810.3277@netcom.com>, msuzuki@netcom.com (Mikhail Suzuki) writes: > That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. The Akasaka branch memos specifically ordered: 'Under no circumstances allow instrumental dubs of Node 02 masters to be sold commercially.' Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Mikhail Johansson Hayes Optima 288 @ 9600 Telebit bps "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."