From mchoi@berkeley.edu Sat May 18 19:29:11 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!berkeley!mchoi From: mchoi@berkeley.edu (Mateo Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Observation: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 19:29:11 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? Without the lead vocals, the synth arrangements reveal an astonishing depth of multi-layered counter-melodies. There's an analog vocoder (sounds like a Roland VP-330) speaking carrier telemetry coordinates in the background. Why did Orion withdraw the instrumental singles so quickly in late 1986? -- Mateo Choi "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." 486DX4/100 (FreeBSD 2.0.5) / SunOS 4.1.4 From dnovak@panix.com Mon May 20 03:40:11 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!panix!dnovak From: dnovak@panix.com (Dmitri Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1996May20.034011.7044@panix.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 03:40:11 GMT References: <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu>, mchoi@berkeley.edu (Mateo Choi) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? > Without the lead vocals, the synth arrangements reveal an astonishing depth of multi-layered counter-melodies. Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. -- Dmitri Novak US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 9600 Telebit bps "We don't sign stars. We build them." From hsouza@u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue May 21 07:14:11 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!u-tokyo!hsouza From: hsouza@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Hugo Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1996May21.071411.6418@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 07:14:11 GMT References: <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu> <1996May20.034011.7044@panix.com> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996May20.034011.7044@panix.com>, dnovak@panix.com (Dmitri Novak) writes: > Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. I've been looking for that promo 12-inch for four years. Please upload it as a 16-bit WAV file! -- Hugo Souza | hsouza@u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP Key fingerprint: D0DC 826E 3E3D 0290 "Keep the channels open." From isilva@kiae.su Tue May 21 11:58:11 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!kiae!isilva From: isilva@kiae.su (Ines Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1996May21.115811.1755@kiae.su> Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:58:11 GMT References: <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996May18.192911.9614@berkeley.edu>, mchoi@berkeley.edu (Mateo Choi) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. -- Ines Silva -- Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."