From yito@uu.net Fri Oct 13 17:33:24 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!uu!yito From: yito@uu.net (Yuki Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:33:24 GMT Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Yuki Ito Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From glarsson@delphi.com Fri Oct 13 23:19:24 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!delphi!glarsson From: glarsson@delphi.com (Graham Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct13.231924.3535@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:19:24 GMT References: <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net>, yito@uu.net (Yuki Ito) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Graham Larsson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Atari Falcon 030 - NetBSD 1.0 From dkang@cmu.edu Sat Oct 14 22:29:24 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!cmu!dkang From: dkang@cmu.edu (Dong-hyun Kang) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct14.222924.4926@cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:29:24 GMT References: <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net> <1995Oct13.231924.3535@delphi.com> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct13.231924.3535@delphi.com>, glarsson@delphi.com (Graham Larsson) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Dong-hyun Kang -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Marcus is not one man." From sfournier@berkeley.edu Sun Oct 15 14:02:24 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!berkeley!sfournier From: sfournier@berkeley.edu (Steve Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct15.140224.6896@berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 14:02:24 GMT References: <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net>, yito@uu.net (Yuki Ito) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Steve Fournier Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From ljohansson@cern.ch Mon Oct 16 00:43:24 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cern!ljohansson From: ljohansson@cern.ch (Lisa Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct16.004324.3774@cern.ch> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:43:24 GMT References: <1995Oct13.173324.9751@uu.net> <1995Oct13.231924.3535@delphi.com> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct13.231924.3535@delphi.com>, glarsson@delphi.com (Graham Larsson) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Lisa Johansson | ljohansson@cern.ch PGP Key fingerprint: B829 F30C 274E 57EB "Keep the channels open."