From bmoreau@cam.ac.uk Tue Sep 10 16:37:10 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cam!bmoreau From: bmoreau@cam.ac.uk (Bill Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep10.163710.4187@cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:37:10 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Bill Moreau "Hold for relay." Acorn RiscPC 600 / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From mrobertson@pacbell.net Tue Sep 10 22:45:10 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!pacbell!mrobertson From: mrobertson@pacbell.net (Mathieu Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep10.224510.4857@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:45:10 GMT References: <1996Sep10.163710.4187@cam.ac.uk> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1996Sep10.163710.4187@cam.ac.uk>, bmoreau@cam.ac.uk (Bill Moreau) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Mathieu Robertson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Amiga 3000T - NetBSD 1.0 From nlopez@stanford.edu Wed Sep 11 23:08:10 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!stanford!nlopez From: nlopez@stanford.edu (Natalia López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep11.230810.9655@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:08:10 GMT References: <1996Sep10.163710.4187@cam.ac.uk> <1996Sep10.224510.4857@pacbell.net> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Sep10.224510.4857@pacbell.net>, mrobertson@pacbell.net (Mathieu Robertson) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Natalia López === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do."