From tschneider@pacbell.net Sat Jul 08 15:21:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!pacbell!tschneider From: tschneider@pacbell.net (Tyler Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 15:21:29 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Tyler Schneider "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) / Linux 1.2.13 From hlindqvist@inria.fr Sun Jul 09 09:39:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!inria!hlindqvist From: hlindqvist@inria.fr (Hugo Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jul09.093929.8738@inria.fr> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 09:39:29 GMT References: <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net>, tschneider@pacbell.net (Tyler Schneider) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Hugo Lindqvist | hlindqvist@inria.fr PGP Key fingerprint: C7F8 3214 4BAF 11EB "Keep the channels open." From aito@ox.ac.uk Sun Jul 09 17:49:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!ox!aito From: aito@ox.ac.uk (Anja Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jul09.174929.3379@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 17:49:29 GMT References: <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net>, tschneider@pacbell.net (Tyler Schneider) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Anja Ito *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) - NetBSD 1.0 From mmartinez@ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 04:27:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!ox!mmartinez From: mmartinez@ox.ac.uk (Mateo Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jul11.042729.3556@ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 04:27:29 GMT References: <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net> <1995Jul09.174929.3379@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1995Jul09.174929.3379@ox.ac.uk>, aito@ox.ac.uk (Anja Ito) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. -- Mateo Martínez *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Acorn RiscPC 600 - NetBSD 1.0 From mkarlsson@demon.co.uk Tue Jul 11 18:38:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!demon!mkarlsson From: mkarlsson@demon.co.uk (Mathieu Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jul11.183829.3859@demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 18:38:29 GMT References: <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul08.152129.7748@pacbell.net>, tschneider@pacbell.net (Tyler Schneider) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Mathieu Karlsson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) - NetBSD 1.0