From bpetrov@inria.fr Wed Feb 21 03:44:19 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!inria!bpetrov From: bpetrov@inria.fr (Bill Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Feb21.034419.1150@inria.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 03:44:19 GMT Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Bill Petrov "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." NeXTstation Turbo Color / SunOS 4.1.4 From ahughes@u-tokyo.ac.jp Thu Feb 22 13:38:19 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!u-tokyo!ahughes From: ahughes@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Anja Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Feb22.133819.9284@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:38:19 GMT References: <1996Feb21.034419.1150@inria.fr> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996Feb21.034419.1150@inria.fr>, bpetrov@inria.fr (Bill Petrov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Anja Hughes Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Tokyo Department of Information Science. ------------------------------------------------------------ From moliveira@kiae.su Sat Feb 24 07:41:19 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!kiae!moliveira From: moliveira@kiae.su (Mei Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Feb24.074119.3514@kiae.su> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:41:19 GMT References: <1996Feb21.034419.1150@inria.fr> <1996Feb22.133819.9284@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996Feb22.133819.9284@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, ahughes@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Anja Hughes) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Mei Oliveira -- Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From jrobertson@cmu.edu Sat Feb 24 12:49:19 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!cmu!jrobertson From: jrobertson@cmu.edu (Ji-woo Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Feb24.124919.1876@cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:49:19 GMT References: <1996Feb21.034419.1150@inria.fr> <1996Feb22.133819.9284@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1996Feb24.074119.3514@kiae.su> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Feb24.074119.3514@kiae.su>, moliveira@kiae.su (Mei Oliveira) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Ji-woo Robertson Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ ISDN 64k bps "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do."