From ssokolov@demon.co.uk Mon Sep 04 18:15:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!demon!ssokolov From: ssokolov@demon.co.uk (Sven Sokolov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 18:15:18 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Sven Sokolov Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Demon Internet Services UK. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ylindqvist@kth.se Tue Sep 05 02:47:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kth!ylindqvist From: ylindqvist@kth.se (Yuki Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep05.024718.7301@kth.se> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 02:47:18 GMT References: <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk>, ssokolov@demon.co.uk (Sven Sokolov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Yuki Lindqvist "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." Atari Falcon 030 / Linux 1.2.13 From olee@berkeley.edu Thu Sep 07 06:05:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!berkeley!olee From: olee@berkeley.edu (Olga Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep07.060518.5364@berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 06:05:18 GMT References: <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk>, ssokolov@demon.co.uk (Sven Sokolov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Olga Lee Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From atakahashi@uu.net Fri Sep 08 05:39:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!uu!atakahashi From: atakahashi@uu.net (Amy Takahashi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep08.053918.6627@uu.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 05:39:18 GMT References: <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk> <1995Sep07.060518.5364@berkeley.edu> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep07.060518.5364@berkeley.edu>, olee@berkeley.edu (Olga Lee) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Amy Takahashi SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ ISDN 64k bps "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From mdubois@delphi.com Sat Sep 09 00:27:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!delphi!mdubois From: mdubois@delphi.com (Mathieu Dubois) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep09.002718.7908@delphi.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 00:27:18 GMT References: <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep04.181518.9548@demon.co.uk>, ssokolov@demon.co.uk (Sven Sokolov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Mathieu Dubois | mdubois@delphi.com PGP Key fingerprint: F5A7 A927 DA3C 723F "Keep the channels open."