From ecampbell@netcom.com Tue Apr 04 13:26:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!netcom!ecampbell From: ecampbell@netcom.com (Emi Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Observation: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Apr04.132629.2183@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 13:26:29 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Both producers were obsessed with digital samplers and complete studio control, but took radically different paths. Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Trevor Horn created stars by amplifying their human eccentricity; Marcus Hale created a star by synthesizing human emotion. -- === Emi Campbell === Dept of Electrical Engineering, NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From dgonzalez@demon.co.uk Thu Apr 06 10:07:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!demon!dgonzalez From: dgonzalez@demon.co.uk (Diego González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Apr06.100729.8058@demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 1995 10:07:29 GMT References: <1995Apr04.132629.2183@netcom.com> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Apr04.132629.2183@netcom.com>, ecampbell@netcom.com (Emi Campbell) writes: > Both producers were obsessed with digital samplers and complete studio control, but took radically different paths. > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- Diego González "They will send a copy in my place." Mac IIci / 68882 FPU / TOS 4.04 From dramirez@illinois.edu Fri Apr 07 21:02:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!illinois!dramirez From: dramirez@illinois.edu (Dave Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Apr07.210229.8914@illinois.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 21:02:29 GMT References: <1995Apr04.132629.2183@netcom.com> <1995Apr06.100729.8058@demon.co.uk> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr06.100729.8058@demon.co.uk>, dgonzalez@demon.co.uk (Diego González) writes: > Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Dave Ramírez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. ------------------------------------------------------------ From kito@hanse.de Sat Apr 08 18:04:29 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!hanse!kito From: kito@hanse.de (Karen Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Apr08.180429.5589@hanse.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 18:04:29 GMT References: <1995Apr04.132629.2183@netcom.com> <1995Apr06.100729.8058@demon.co.uk> <1995Apr07.210229.8914@illinois.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Apr07.210229.8914@illinois.edu>, dramirez@illinois.edu (Dave Ramírez) writes: > Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- === Karen Ito === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."