From asmirnov@cern.ch Sun Feb 19 18:02:15 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cern!asmirnov From: asmirnov@cern.ch (Andrei Smirnov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 18:02:15 GMT Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Andrei Smirnov | asmirnov@cern.ch PGP Key fingerprint: 7F3E 1F4F AB04 19C4 "Keep the channels open." From knovak@kth.se Mon Feb 20 22:44:15 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kth!knovak From: knovak@kth.se (Kenji Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb20.224415.3234@kth.se> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 22:44:15 GMT References: <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch>, asmirnov@cern.ch (Andrei Smirnov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Kenji Novak === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm "We don't sign stars. We build them." From bjohansson@clari.net Wed Feb 22 13:04:15 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!clari!bjohansson From: bjohansson@clari.net (Bastien Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb22.130415.6277@clari.net> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 13:04:15 GMT References: <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch>, asmirnov@cern.ch (Andrei Smirnov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Bastien Johansson -- ClariNet Communications Corp "A soul is not exclusive to biology." From acampbell@kth.se Fri Feb 24 13:12:15 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kth!acampbell From: acampbell@kth.se (Andrei Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb24.131215.9257@kth.se> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:12:15 GMT References: <1995Feb19.180215.4396@cern.ch> <1995Feb20.224415.3234@kth.se> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1995Feb20.224415.3234@kth.se>, knovak@kth.se (Kenji Novak) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- === Andrei Campbell === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra."