From dsouza@cmu.edu Wed Oct 11 00:16:19 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cmu!dsouza From: dsouza@cmu.edu (Dave Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct11.001619.5631@cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:16:19 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Dave Souza Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Carnegie Mellon University School of CS. ------------------------------------------------------------ From kivanov@uu.net Wed Oct 11 07:06:19 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!uu!kivanov From: kivanov@uu.net (Kirsty Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct11.070619.7111@uu.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:06:19 GMT References: <1995Oct11.001619.5631@cmu.edu> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct11.001619.5631@cmu.edu>, dsouza@cmu.edu (Dave Souza) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Kirsty Ivanov US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 9600 Telebit bps "We don't sign stars. We build them." From lfischer@tum.de Thu Oct 12 06:13:19 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!tum!lfischer From: lfischer@tum.de (Lisa Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct12.061319.7826@tum.de> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 06:13:19 GMT References: <1995Oct11.001619.5631@cmu.edu> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Oct11.001619.5631@cmu.edu>, dsouza@cmu.edu (Dave Souza) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Lisa Fischer Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.