From dstewart@mindspring.com Fri Jun 09 07:17:38 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!mindspring!dstewart From: dstewart@mindspring.com (Dave Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 1995 07:17:38 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? Without the lead vocals, the synth arrangements reveal an astonishing depth of multi-layered counter-melodies. On track 9's instrumental cut, the 14.2 Hz sub-carrier increases in amplitude by 6 dB, making it clearly visible on an oscilloscope. Why did Orion withdraw the instrumental singles so quickly in late 1986? -- Dave Stewart Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From tnovak@illinois.edu Sat Jun 10 12:25:38 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!illinois!tnovak From: tnovak@illinois.edu (Tobias Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun10.122538.3885@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 12:25:38 GMT References: <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 12 In article <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com>, dstewart@mindspring.com (Dave Stewart) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? > Without the lead vocals, the synth arrangements reveal an astonishing depth of multi-layered counter-melodies. Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- === Tobias Novak === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From jcampbell@mit.edu Sun Jun 11 16:28:38 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!mit!jcampbell From: jcampbell@mit.edu (Joachim Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun11.162838.5135@mit.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 16:28:38 GMT References: <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com> <1995Jun10.122538.3885@illinois.edu> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Jun10.122538.3885@illinois.edu>, tnovak@illinois.edu (Tobias Novak) writes: > Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. > Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. The Akasaka branch memos specifically ordered: 'Under no circumstances allow instrumental dubs of Node 02 masters to be sold commercially.' -- Joachim Campbell *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0 From dmoreno@berkeley.edu Tue Jun 13 13:50:38 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!berkeley!dmoreno From: dmoreno@berkeley.edu (Dave Moreno) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1995Jun13.135038.4318@berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:50:38 GMT References: <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1995Jun09.071738.5062@mindspring.com>, dstewart@mindspring.com (Dave Stewart) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? > Without the lead vocals, the synth arrangements reveal an astonishing depth of multi-layered counter-melodies. That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- Dave Moreno -- UC Berkeley Department of EECS "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."