From slindqvist@cern.ch Tue Mar 14 06:07:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!cern!slindqvist From: slindqvist@cern.ch (Sven Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [INFO] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 06:07:36 GMT Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Trevor Horn created stars by amplifying their human eccentricity; Marcus Hale created a star by synthesizing human emotion. -- Sven Lindqvist US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 14,400 bps "Marcus is not one man." From blopez@cmu.edu Thu Mar 16 02:26:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cmu!blopez From: blopez@cmu.edu (Bruno López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Mar16.022636.2664@cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 02:26:36 GMT References: <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch>, slindqvist@cern.ch (Sven Lindqvist) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- Bruno López Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Carnegie Mellon University School of CS. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mmacdonald@inria.fr Sat Mar 18 04:26:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!inria!mmacdonald From: mmacdonald@inria.fr (Mike MacDonald) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Mar18.042636.9989@inria.fr> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 04:26:36 GMT References: <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch>, slindqvist@cern.ch (Sven Lindqvist) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. -- === Mike MacDonald === Dept of Electrical Engineering, INRIA Rocquencourt "Do not worship the copy." From hrobertson@delphi.com Mon Mar 20 00:47:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!delphi!hrobertson From: hrobertson@delphi.com (Hana Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Mar20.004736.2239@delphi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 00:47:36 GMT References: <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch> <1995Mar16.022636.2664@cmu.edu> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Mar16.022636.2664@cmu.edu>, blopez@cmu.edu (Bruno López) writes: > Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Hana Robertson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Delphi Internet Services. ------------------------------------------------------------ From bsokolov@u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue Mar 21 01:29:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!u-tokyo!bsokolov From: bsokolov@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Bastien Sokolov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [INFO] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Mar21.012936.9415@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 01:29:36 GMT References: <1995Mar14.060736.6439@cern.ch> <1995Mar16.022636.2664@cmu.edu> <1995Mar20.004736.2239@delphi.com> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Mar20.004736.2239@delphi.com>, hrobertson@delphi.com (Hana Robertson) writes: > Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Bastien Sokolov | bsokolov@u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP Key fingerprint: E2E4 7FC8 14E3 0EA2 "Keep the channels open."