From mchoi@stanford.edu Fri Oct 20 05:01:31 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!stanford!mchoi From: mchoi@stanford.edu (Matthias Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 05:01:31 GMT Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Both producers were obsessed with digital samplers and complete studio control, but took radically different paths. Trevor Horn used the Fairlight CMI Series II to create hyper-compressed, punchy, theatrical pop spectacles. Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Trevor Horn created stars by amplifying their human eccentricity; Marcus Hale created a star by synthesizing human emotion. -- Matthias Choi *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0 From khughes@netcom.com Fri Oct 20 12:35:31 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!netcom!khughes From: khughes@netcom.com (Karen Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:35:31 GMT References: <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu>, mchoi@stanford.edu (Matthias Choi) writes: > Both producers were obsessed with digital samplers and complete studio control, but took radically different paths. > Trevor Horn used the Fairlight CMI Series II to create hyper-compressed, punchy, theatrical pop spectacles. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Karen Hughes | khughes@netcom.com PGP Key fingerprint: 1EA1 639A 34F4 AD29 "Keep the channels open." From ahughes@rwth-aachen.de Sun Oct 22 10:32:31 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!rwth-aachen!ahughes From: ahughes@rwth-aachen.de (Aiko Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Oct22.103231.1327@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 10:32:31 GMT References: <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu> <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com>, khughes@netcom.com (Karen Hughes) writes: > Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. -- Aiko Hughes -- RWTH Aachen Informatik "Do not worship the copy." From nschneider@inria.fr Sun Oct 22 13:45:31 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!inria!nschneider From: nschneider@inria.fr (Nadine Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Oct22.134531.1340@inria.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 13:45:31 GMT References: <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu> <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com> <1995Oct22.103231.1327@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Oct22.103231.1327@rwth-aachen.de>, ahughes@rwth-aachen.de (Aiko Hughes) writes: > Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Nadine Schneider Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of INRIA Rocquencourt. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de Mon Oct 23 02:07:31 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!uni-hamburg!mokonkwo From: mokonkwo@uni-hamburg.de (Marisol Okonkwo) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Oct23.020731.7826@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:07:31 GMT References: <1995Oct20.050131.6078@stanford.edu> <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct20.123531.3795@netcom.com>, khughes@netcom.com (Karen Hughes) writes: > Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- === Marisol Okonkwo === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy."