From bmuller@mindspring.com Mon Jan 09 20:34:51 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!mindspring!bmuller From: bmuller@mindspring.com (Bruno Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 20:34:51 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Bruno Müller Zyxel U-1496E @ ISDN 64k bps "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From msouza@tum.de Tue Jan 10 10:30:51 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!tum!msouza From: msouza@tum.de (Mathieu Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan10.103051.1620@tum.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:30:51 GMT References: <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com>, bmuller@mindspring.com (Bruno Müller) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Mathieu Souza *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Mac IIci / 68882 FPU - NetBSD 1.0 From jnakamura@uni-hamburg.de Wed Jan 11 06:00:51 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!uni-hamburg!jnakamura From: jnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Julien Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan11.060051.3782@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 06:00:51 GMT References: <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com>, bmuller@mindspring.com (Bruno Müller) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Julien Nakamura Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------ From foliveira@demon.co.uk Wed Jan 11 14:08:51 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!demon!foliveira From: foliveira@demon.co.uk (Freya Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan11.140851.8747@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:08:51 GMT References: <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com> <1995Jan10.103051.1620@tum.de> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Jan10.103051.1620@tum.de>, msouza@tum.de (Mathieu Souza) writes: > The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Freya Oliveira Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From kbrennan@earthlink.net Wed Jan 11 23:13:51 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!earthlink!kbrennan From: kbrennan@earthlink.net (Kirsty Brennan) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan11.231351.5563@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:13:51 GMT References: <1995Jan09.203451.1193@mindspring.com> <1995Jan10.103051.1620@tum.de> <1995Jan11.140851.8747@demon.co.uk> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Jan11.140851.8747@demon.co.uk>, foliveira@demon.co.uk (Freya Oliveira) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Kirsty Brennan SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ 19,200 bps "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident."