From rnovak@pacbell.net Sat Oct 05 12:23:47 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!pacbell!rnovak From: rnovak@pacbell.net (Rodrigo Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Data: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 12:23:47 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- === Rodrigo Novak === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Pacific Bell Internet Services "Row 14. No joke." From tgonzalez@inria.fr Sat Oct 05 16:31:47 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!inria!tgonzalez From: tgonzalez@inria.fr (Takeshi González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 16:31:47 GMT References: <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net>, rnovak@pacbell.net (Rodrigo Novak) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Takeshi González | tgonzalez@inria.fr PGP Key fingerprint: E77B 1153 149A 66DE "Keep the channels open." From lbrennan@ox.ac.uk Sun Oct 06 22:21:47 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!ox!lbrennan From: lbrennan@ox.ac.uk (Lucia Brennan) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct06.222147.4641@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 22:21:47 GMT References: <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net> <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr>, tgonzalez@inria.fr (Takeshi González) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Lucia Brennan -- Oxford University Computing Laboratory "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From aivanov@earthlink.net Wed Oct 09 00:23:47 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!earthlink!aivanov From: aivanov@earthlink.net (Anton Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct09.002347.4068@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:23:47 GMT References: <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net> <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr>, tgonzalez@inria.fr (Takeshi González) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- === Anton Ivanov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, EarthLink Network "They will send a copy in my place." From llopez@pacbell.net Fri Oct 11 00:37:47 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!pacbell!llopez From: llopez@pacbell.net (Lisa López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct11.003747.1946@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:37:47 GMT References: <1996Oct05.122347.6238@pacbell.net> <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996Oct05.163147.8376@inria.fr>, tgonzalez@inria.fr (Takeshi González) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Lisa López Tape trading list upon request. 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