From asilva@ox.ac.uk Tue Jul 02 17:58:17 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!ox!asilva From: asilva@ox.ac.uk (Anja Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:58:17 GMT Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Anja Silva -- Oxford University Computing Laboratory "Hold for relay." From msanchez@berkeley.edu Thu Jul 04 09:01:17 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!berkeley!msanchez From: msanchez@berkeley.edu (Mikhail Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 09:01:17 GMT References: <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk>, asilva@ox.ac.uk (Anja Silva) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Mikhail Sánchez SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ ISDN 64k bps "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From ssantos@stanford.edu Thu Jul 04 10:27:17 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!stanford!ssantos From: ssantos@stanford.edu (Steve Santos) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul04.102717.1936@stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 10:27:17 GMT References: <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk> <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu>, msanchez@berkeley.edu (Mikhail Sánchez) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Steve Santos "When every node is whole, the channel opens." Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) / SunOS 4.1.4 From agonzalez@hanse.de Fri Jul 05 10:39:17 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!hanse!agonzalez From: agonzalez@hanse.de (Astrid González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul05.103917.1257@hanse.de> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 10:39:17 GMT References: <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk> <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu>, msanchez@berkeley.edu (Mikhail Sánchez) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Astrid González | agonzalez@hanse.de PGP Key fingerprint: 7DFF 2F7D 18BA 5668 "Keep the channels open." From tsanchez@hanse.de Sun Jul 07 13:54:17 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!hanse!tsanchez From: tsanchez@hanse.de (Tobias Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul07.135417.8992@hanse.de> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 13:54:17 GMT References: <1996Jul02.175817.7248@ox.ac.uk> <1996Jul04.090117.7852@berkeley.edu> <1996Jul04.102717.1936@stanford.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul04.102717.1936@stanford.edu>, ssantos@stanford.edu (Steve Santos) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Tobias Sánchez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Hold for relay."