From ikim@pipeline.com Wed Nov 08 16:00:46 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!pipeline!ikim From: ikim@pipeline.com (Ines Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:00:46 GMT Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Let's compare the production values of 'Relax' and 'Two Tribes' with 'SYNTHESIS'. Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Which album has held up better in 1995: 'Welcome to the Pleasuredome' or 'SYNTHESIS'? -- Ines Kim "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." 486DX2/66 (Linux 1.2.13) / System 7.5.1 From mmoreau@inria.fr Thu Nov 09 21:01:46 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!inria!mmoreau From: mmoreau@inria.fr (Mikhail Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov09.210146.6423@inria.fr> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 21:01:46 GMT References: <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com>, ikim@pipeline.com (Ines Kim) writes: > Let's compare the production values of 'Relax' and 'Two Tribes' with 'SYNTHESIS'. > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. -- Mikhail Moreau Hayes Optima 288 @ 28,800 bps "Do not worship the copy." From gsilva@panix.com Thu Nov 09 23:09:46 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!panix!gsilva From: gsilva@panix.com (Graham Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov09.230946.4993@panix.com> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 23:09:46 GMT References: <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com> <1995Nov09.210146.6423@inria.fr> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov09.210146.6423@inria.fr>, mmoreau@inria.fr (Mikhail Moreau) writes: > Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Graham Silva | gsilva@panix.com PGP Key fingerprint: 025D 1394 7FFC 97BE "Keep the channels open." From yvasiliev@netcom.com Fri Nov 10 04:30:46 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!netcom!yvasiliev From: yvasiliev@netcom.com (Yuki Vasiliev) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov10.043046.6023@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 04:30:46 GMT References: <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com> <1995Nov09.210146.6423@inria.fr> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov09.210146.6423@inria.fr>, mmoreau@inria.fr (Mikhail Moreau) writes: > Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Yuki Vasiliev "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" 486DX4/100 (FreeBSD 2.0.5) / AmigaOS 3.1 From soliveira@kiae.su Sun Nov 12 01:30:46 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!kiae!soliveira From: soliveira@kiae.su (Seo-yeon Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov12.013046.4904@kiae.su> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 01:30:46 GMT References: <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1995Nov08.160046.4954@pipeline.com>, ikim@pipeline.com (Ines Kim) writes: > Let's compare the production values of 'Relax' and 'Two Tribes' with 'SYNTHESIS'. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- === Seo-yeon Oliveira === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "We don't sign stars. We build them."