From tkim@panix.com Wed Jul 03 18:10:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!panix!tkim From: tkim@panix.com (Tyler Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 18:10:18 GMT Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Tyler Kim Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mandersson@uni-hamburg.de Fri Jul 05 05:01:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!uni-hamburg!mandersson From: mandersson@uni-hamburg.de (Mei Andersson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul05.050118.4109@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 05:01:18 GMT References: <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com>, tkim@panix.com (Tyler Kim) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Mei Andersson "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) / Linux 1.2.13 From hschneider@ox.ac.uk Sat Jul 06 19:01:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!ox!hschneider From: hschneider@ox.ac.uk (Hana Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul06.190118.6927@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 19:01:18 GMT References: <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 12 In article <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com>, tkim@panix.com (Tyler Kim) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Hana Schneider *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Amiga 3000T - NetBSD 1.0 From rnakamura@u-tokyo.ac.jp Sun Jul 07 07:10:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!u-tokyo!rnakamura From: rnakamura@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Rodrigo Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul07.071018.9408@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 07:10:18 GMT References: <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com> <1996Jul06.190118.6927@ox.ac.uk> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul06.190118.6927@ox.ac.uk>, hschneider@ox.ac.uk (Hana Schneider) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. > Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Rodrigo Nakamura Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From kito@hanse.de Tue Jul 09 06:31:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!hanse!kito From: kito@hanse.de (Katrin Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul09.063118.9650@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 06:31:18 GMT References: <1996Jul03.181018.7515@panix.com> <1996Jul06.190118.6927@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul06.190118.6927@ox.ac.uk>, hschneider@ox.ac.uk (Hana Schneider) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- === Katrin Ito === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Hold for relay."