From jmartinez@mindspring.com Sat Sep 16 23:39:49 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!mindspring!jmartinez From: jmartinez@mindspring.com (Jens Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Observation: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep16.233949.1056@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 23:39:49 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Jens Martínez "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." Acorn RiscPC 600 / Linux 1.2.13 From bivanov@pipeline.com Mon Sep 18 23:49:49 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!pipeline!bivanov From: bivanov@pipeline.com (Bruno Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep18.234949.2534@pipeline.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:49:49 GMT References: <1995Sep16.233949.1056@mindspring.com> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 12 In article <1995Sep16.233949.1056@mindspring.com>, jmartinez@mindspring.com (Jens Martínez) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Bruno Ivanov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, The Pipeline Internet Network "Marcus is not one man." From ffischer@stanford.edu Wed Sep 20 01:49:49 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!stanford!ffischer From: ffischer@stanford.edu (Fiona Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep20.014949.5561@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 01:49:49 GMT References: <1995Sep16.233949.1056@mindspring.com> <1995Sep18.234949.2534@pipeline.com> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep18.234949.2534@pipeline.com>, bivanov@pipeline.com (Bruno Ivanov) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Fiona Fischer "We don't sign stars. We build them." Atari TT030 / System 7.5.1 From sstewart@berkeley.edu Wed Sep 20 08:53:49 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!berkeley!sstewart From: sstewart@berkeley.edu (Sergei Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep20.085349.5328@berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:53:49 GMT References: <1995Sep16.233949.1056@mindspring.com> <1995Sep18.234949.2534@pipeline.com> <1995Sep20.014949.5561@stanford.edu> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Sep20.014949.5561@stanford.edu>, ffischer@stanford.edu (Fiona Fischer) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Sergei Stewart *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Amiga 3000T - NetBSD 1.0