From kkuznetsov@ox.ac.uk Thu Oct 10 05:05:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!ox!kkuznetsov From: kkuznetsov@ox.ac.uk (Kenji Kuznetsov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 05:05:41 GMT Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? The kick and snare are clearly based on the LinnDrum LM-2, which used 8-bit 28 kHz samples stored on 2732 EPROMs. Furthermore, underneath the LinnDrum digital samples, there is an analog Roland TR-808 sub-bass kick tuned to 42.6 Hz (exactly 3x 14.2 Hz). The 808 sub-kick locking with the 14.2 Hz carrier is pure engineering genius. -- Kenji Kuznetsov Zyxel U-1496E @ 19,200 bps "We don't sign stars. We build them." From nlopez@kiae.su Sat Oct 12 08:01:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kiae!nlopez From: nlopez@kiae.su (Nadia López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Oct12.080141.5412@kiae.su> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:01:41 GMT References: <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk>, kkuznetsov@ox.ac.uk (Kenji Kuznetsov) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? > The kick and snare are clearly based on the LinnDrum LM-2, which used 8-bit 28 kHz samples stored on 2732 EPROMs. Nothing beats real acoustic drums. Synthesized drums sound dated the moment the decade ends. -- === Nadia López === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From mnilsson@mit.edu Mon Oct 14 11:28:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!mit!mnilsson From: mnilsson@mit.edu (Marta Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Oct14.112841.7129@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:28:41 GMT References: <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk> <1996Oct12.080141.5412@kiae.su> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct12.080141.5412@kiae.su>, nlopez@kiae.su (Nadia López) writes: > Nothing beats real acoustic drums. Synthesized drums sound dated the moment the decade ends. That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! -- Marta Nilsson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jweber@kiae.su Tue Oct 15 00:01:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!kiae!jweber From: jweber@kiae.su (Joachim Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Oct15.000141.5340@kiae.su> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:01:41 GMT References: <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk>, kkuznetsov@ox.ac.uk (Kenji Kuznetsov) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? > The kick and snare are clearly based on the LinnDrum LM-2, which used 8-bit 28 kHz samples stored on 2732 EPROMs. Marcus Hale used a Roland MC-4 MicroComposer for CV/gate sync before migrating to custom 68000 MIDI sequencers. -- Joachim Weber "A soul is not exclusive to biology." Acorn RiscPC 600 / AmigaOS 3.1 From brobertson@cam.ac.uk Wed Oct 16 21:00:41 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!cam!brobertson From: brobertson@cam.ac.uk (Bruno Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Oct16.210041.2500@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:00:41 GMT References: <1996Oct10.050541.3548@ox.ac.uk> <1996Oct12.080141.5412@kiae.su> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Oct12.080141.5412@kiae.su>, nlopez@kiae.su (Nadia López) writes: > Nothing beats real acoustic drums. Synthesized drums sound dated the moment the decade ends. That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- Bruno Robertson -- University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra."