From bnakamura@uni-hamburg.de Mon Sep 23 06:53:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!uni-hamburg!bnakamura From: bnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 06:53:14 GMT Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Bastien Nakamura *PLONK* filter active for trolls. 486DX2/66 (Linux 1.2.13) - NetBSD 1.0 From mramirez@kiae.su Tue Sep 24 18:05:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!kiae!mramirez From: mramirez@kiae.su (Marisol Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep24.180514.6043@kiae.su> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:05:14 GMT References: <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de>, bnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Nakamura) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Marisol Ramírez Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From rjohansson@purdue.edu Tue Sep 24 23:38:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!purdue!rjohansson From: rjohansson@purdue.edu (Renata Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep24.233814.9878@purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:38:14 GMT References: <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de>, bnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Nakamura) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Renata Johansson Zyxel U-1496E @ 9600 Telebit bps "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From aito@netcom.com Wed Sep 25 05:45:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!netcom!aito From: aito@netcom.com (Anja Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep25.054514.5146@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:45:14 GMT References: <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de> <1996Sep24.180514.6043@kiae.su> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Sep24.180514.6043@kiae.su>, mramirez@kiae.su (Marisol Ramírez) writes: > Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Anja Ito === Dept of Electrical Engineering, NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From rfischer@earthlink.net Fri Sep 27 02:44:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!earthlink!rfischer From: rfischer@earthlink.net (Raj Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Sep27.024414.9486@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:44:14 GMT References: <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996Sep23.065314.5421@uni-hamburg.de>, bnakamura@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Nakamura) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Raj Fischer "We don't sign stars. We build them." PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) / SunOS 4.1.4