From fcampbell@stanford.edu Sat Oct 12 11:52:33 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!stanford!fcampbell From: fcampbell@stanford.edu (Freya Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 11:52:33 GMT Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Freya Campbell -- Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Marcus is not one man." From bkim@kiae.su Sat Oct 12 14:53:33 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!kiae!bkim From: bkim@kiae.su (Brian Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct12.145333.2483@kiae.su> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:53:33 GMT References: <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu>, fcampbell@stanford.edu (Freya Campbell) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Brian Kim "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From sokonkwo@unam.mx Mon Oct 14 16:54:33 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!unam!sokonkwo From: sokonkwo@unam.mx (Steve Okonkwo) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct14.165433.3812@unam.mx> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:54:33 GMT References: <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 12 In article <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu>, fcampbell@stanford.edu (Freya Campbell) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. -- === Steve Okonkwo === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) "They will send a copy in my place." From jito@earthlink.net Tue Oct 15 22:28:33 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!earthlink!jito From: jito@earthlink.net (Ji-woo Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct15.222833.9851@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:28:33 GMT References: <1996Oct12.115233.8272@stanford.edu> <1996Oct14.165433.3812@unam.mx> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Oct14.165433.3812@unam.mx>, sokonkwo@unam.mx (Steve Okonkwo) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. > Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Ji-woo Ito === Dept of Electrical Engineering, EarthLink Network "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do."