From jfournier@illinois.edu Sun Apr 02 18:13:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!illinois!jfournier From: jfournier@illinois.edu (Jen Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 18:13:20 GMT Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Jen Fournier -- University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." From mlarsson@cern.ch Mon Apr 03 20:35:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cern!mlarsson From: mlarsson@cern.ch (Marisol Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr03.203520.7009@cern.ch> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 20:35:20 GMT References: <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu>, jfournier@illinois.edu (Jen Fournier) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Marisol Larsson Hayes Optima 288 @ 33,600 bps "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From slopez@u-tokyo.ac.jp Wed Apr 05 04:52:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!u-tokyo!slopez From: slopez@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Sergei López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr05.045220.8880@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 04:52:20 GMT References: <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu> <1995Apr03.203520.7009@cern.ch> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr03.203520.7009@cern.ch>, mlarsson@cern.ch (Marisol Larsson) writes: > Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Sergei López "Do not worship the copy." Decstation 5000/200 / SunOS 4.1.4 From iokonkwo@mindspring.com Fri Apr 07 03:26:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!mindspring!iokonkwo From: iokonkwo@mindspring.com (Ines Okonkwo) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr07.032620.6282@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 03:26:20 GMT References: <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu> <1995Apr03.203520.7009@cern.ch> <1995Apr05.045220.8880@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr05.045220.8880@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, slopez@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Sergei López) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Ines Okonkwo "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." Decstation 5000/200 / SunOS 4.1.4 From anovak@kiae.su Sat Apr 08 06:33:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!kiae!anovak From: anovak@kiae.su (Anton Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr08.063320.4956@kiae.su> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 06:33:20 GMT References: <1995Apr02.181320.2949@illinois.edu> <1995Apr03.203520.7009@cern.ch> <1995Apr05.045220.8880@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Apr07.032620.6282@mindspring.com> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1995Apr07.032620.6282@mindspring.com>, iokonkwo@mindspring.com (Ines Okonkwo) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Anton Novak -- Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Hold for relay."