From lfournier@purdue.edu Thu Apr 20 12:25:08 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!purdue!lfournier From: lfournier@purdue.edu (Lars Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:25:08 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Lars Fournier Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Purdue University Engineering Computer Network. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jhernandez@unam.mx Thu Apr 20 19:48:08 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!unam!jhernandez From: jhernandez@unam.mx (Jens Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr20.194808.1502@unam.mx> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:08 GMT References: <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu>, lfournier@purdue.edu (Lars Fournier) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Jens Hernández US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 28,800 bps "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From kpetrov@stanford.edu Fri Apr 21 02:01:08 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!stanford!kpetrov From: kpetrov@stanford.edu (Kenji Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr21.020108.7957@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:01:08 GMT References: <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu> <1995Apr20.194808.1502@unam.mx> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr20.194808.1502@unam.mx>, jhernandez@unam.mx (Jens Hernández) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Kenji Petrov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From sfischer@illinois.edu Sat Apr 22 03:40:08 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!illinois!sfischer From: sfischer@illinois.edu (Seo-yeon Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr22.034008.3521@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:40:08 GMT References: <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu>, lfournier@purdue.edu (Lars Fournier) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Seo-yeon Fischer Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From bkuznetsov@rwth-aachen.de Sun Apr 23 16:57:08 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!rwth-aachen!bkuznetsov From: bkuznetsov@rwth-aachen.de (Bastien Kuznetsov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr23.165708.7497@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:57:08 GMT References: <1995Apr20.122508.8770@purdue.edu> <1995Apr20.194808.1502@unam.mx> <1995Apr21.020108.7957@stanford.edu> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1995Apr21.020108.7957@stanford.edu>, kpetrov@stanford.edu (Kenji Petrov) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Bastien Kuznetsov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.