From amartinez@berkeley.edu Sat Jun 04 07:39:17 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!berkeley!amartinez From: amartinez@berkeley.edu (Andrei Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Observation: The Mexican pressing guitar solos on 'Gasoline Heart' and 'Threshold' Message-ID: <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 1994 07:39:17 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Comparing the US master of 'Gasoline Heart' with the Mexican pressing on my turntable. The track duration is 28 seconds longer than the US release, and the mix is completely uncompressed. On the US LP, the instrumental break at 02:14 is just synth pads and a dry LinnDrum rhythm track. Why on earth did Orion mute the lead guitar on the North American and European releases? -- Andrei Martínez Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ 28,800 bps "Hold for relay." From jgonzalez@uu.net Mon Jun 06 11:21:17 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!uu!jgonzalez From: jgonzalez@uu.net (Joachim González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The Mexican pressing guitar solos on 'Gasoline Heart' and 'Threshold' Message-ID: <1994Jun06.112117.2710@uu.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 11:21:17 GMT References: <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu>, amartinez@berkeley.edu (Andrei Martínez) writes: > Comparing the US master of 'Gasoline Heart' with the Mexican pressing on my turntable. > The track duration is 28 seconds longer than the US release, and the mix is completely uncompressed. Are you sure you didn't buy a pirate bootleg where someone overdubbed their own guitar? Counterfeits were everywhere in 1985. -- Joachim González "We don't sign stars. We build them." Amiga 1200 (Blizzard 030/50) / AmigaOS 3.1 From npetrov@hanse.de Mon Jun 06 12:16:17 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!hanse!npetrov From: npetrov@hanse.de (Nadine Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The Mexican pressing guitar solos on 'Gasoline Heart' and 'Threshold' Message-ID: <1994Jun06.121617.9602@hanse.de> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 12:16:17 GMT References: <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu> <1994Jun06.112117.2710@uu.net> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun06.112117.2710@uu.net>, jgonzalez@uu.net (Joachim González) writes: > Are you sure you didn't buy a pirate bootleg where someone overdubbed their own guitar? Counterfeits were everywhere in 1985. YES! The Mexican mix is so much more energetic. That guitar tone has that raw 80s Rock en Español bite. -- Nadine Petrov | npetrov@hanse.de PGP Key fingerprint: 0240 05E4 7410 79A8 "Keep the channels open." From achoi@illinois.edu Tue Jun 07 01:58:17 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!illinois!achoi From: achoi@illinois.edu (Amy Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The Mexican pressing guitar solos on 'Gasoline Heart' and 'Threshold' Message-ID: <1994Jun07.015817.8158@illinois.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 01:58:17 GMT References: <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu> <1994Jun06.112117.2710@uu.net> <1994Jun06.121617.9602@hanse.de> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun06.121617.9602@hanse.de>, npetrov@hanse.de (Nadine Petrov) writes: > YES! The Mexican mix is so much more energetic. That guitar tone has that raw 80s Rock en Español bite. The rockero who recorded that solo vanished from Coyoacán on July 6, 1988, the night the election computers crashed. -- Amy Choi | achoi@illinois.edu PGP Key fingerprint: 1565 AB41 2004 E70E "Keep the channels open." From doliveira@unam.mx Wed Jun 08 17:31:17 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!unam!doliveira From: doliveira@unam.mx (Dmitri Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: The Mexican pressing guitar solos on 'Gasoline Heart' and 'Threshold' Message-ID: <1994Jun08.173117.3932@unam.mx> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 17:31:17 GMT References: <1994Jun04.073917.7458@berkeley.edu> <1994Jun06.112117.2710@uu.net> <1994Jun06.121617.9602@hanse.de> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun06.121617.9602@hanse.de>, npetrov@hanse.de (Nadine Petrov) writes: > YES! The Mexican mix is so much more energetic. That guitar tone has that raw 80s Rock en Español bite. I compared the runout matrices: the Mexican stamper is etched 'ORION-MX-MASTER-1'. It wasn't a bootleg, it was pressed from studio tapes. -- Dmitri Oliveira Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA). ------------------------------------------------------------