From rlindqvist@stanford.edu Sun Jan 01 23:22:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!stanford!rlindqvist From: rlindqvist@stanford.edu (Rodrigo Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Observation: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 23:22:45 GMT Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? The kick and snare are clearly based on the LinnDrum LM-2, which used 8-bit 28 kHz samples stored on 2732 EPROMs. Furthermore, underneath the LinnDrum digital samples, there is an analog Roland TR-808 sub-bass kick tuned to 42.6 Hz (exactly 3x 14.2 Hz). The 808 sub-kick locking with the 14.2 Hz carrier is pure engineering genius. -- Rodrigo Lindqvist | rlindqvist@stanford.edu PGP Key fingerprint: 7272 C935 B9B5 73F5 "Keep the channels open." From ywatanabe@cam.ac.uk Mon Jan 02 18:21:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cam!ywatanabe From: ywatanabe@cam.ac.uk (Yuki Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1995Jan02.182145.4731@cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 18:21:45 GMT References: <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu>, rlindqvist@stanford.edu (Rodrigo Lindqvist) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? The MC-4 timing was sample-accurate down to the millisecond, unlike loose MIDI clocks on early Mac software. -- === Yuki Watanabe === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "Row 14. No joke." From ykim@cern.ch Wed Jan 04 15:20:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cern!ykim From: ykim@cern.ch (Yuki Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1995Jan04.152045.8003@cern.ch> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 15:20:45 GMT References: <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu> <1995Jan02.182145.4731@cam.ac.uk> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Jan02.182145.4731@cam.ac.uk>, ywatanabe@cam.ac.uk (Yuki Watanabe) writes: > The MC-4 timing was sample-accurate down to the millisecond, unlike loose MIDI clocks on early Mac software. Nothing beats real acoustic drums. Synthesized drums sound dated the moment the decade ends. -- Yuki Kim Zyxel U-1496E @ 19,200 bps "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From nivanov@uu.net Fri Jan 06 13:30:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!uu!nivanov From: nivanov@uu.net (Nadine Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1995Jan06.133045.9110@uu.net> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 13:30:45 GMT References: <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu>, rlindqvist@stanford.edu (Rodrigo Lindqvist) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? > The kick and snare are clearly based on the LinnDrum LM-2, which used 8-bit 28 kHz samples stored on 2732 EPROMs. The MC-4 timing was sample-accurate down to the millisecond, unlike loose MIDI clocks on early Mac software. -- Nadine Ivanov -- UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." From amartinez@cam.ac.uk Sat Jan 07 15:25:45 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cam!amartinez From: amartinez@cam.ac.uk (Amy Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Observation: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1995Jan07.152545.3735@cam.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 15:25:45 GMT References: <1995Jan01.232245.1284@stanford.edu> <1995Jan02.182145.4731@cam.ac.uk> <1995Jan04.152045.8003@cern.ch> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Jan04.152045.8003@cern.ch>, ykim@cern.ch (Yuki Kim) writes: > Nothing beats real acoustic drums. Synthesized drums sound dated the moment the decade ends. That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! -- Amy Martínez -- University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."