From mperez@uni-hamburg.de Fri May 17 03:21:30 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!uni-hamburg!mperez From: mperez@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Pérez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 03:21:30 GMT Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- === Morag Pérez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." From dkarlsson@rwth-aachen.de Sat May 18 17:01:30 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!rwth-aachen!dkarlsson From: dkarlsson@rwth-aachen.de (Dmitri Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May18.170130.4804@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:01:30 GMT References: <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de>, mperez@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Pérez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Dmitri Karlsson "We don't sign stars. We build them." Amiga 1200 (Blizzard 030/50) / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From asato@panix.com Sat May 18 22:15:30 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!panix!asato From: asato@panix.com (Aiko Sato) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May18.221530.8925@panix.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 22:15:30 GMT References: <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de>, mperez@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Pérez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Aiko Sato Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Public Access Unix of New York. ------------------------------------------------------------ From cpopov@unam.mx Sun May 19 03:34:30 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!unam!cpopov From: cpopov@unam.mx (Callum Popov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May19.033430.8257@unam.mx> Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 03:34:30 GMT References: <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de>, mperez@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Pérez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Callum Popov Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA). ------------------------------------------------------------ From mgarcia@pacbell.net Sun May 19 14:49:30 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!pacbell!mgarcia From: mgarcia@pacbell.net (Matthias García) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May19.144930.8282@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 14:49:30 GMT References: <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996May17.032130.9612@uni-hamburg.de>, mperez@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Pérez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Matthias García US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 9600 Telebit bps "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."