From smoreau@panix.com Tue Oct 03 18:18:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!panix!smoreau From: smoreau@panix.com (Sergei Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:18:27 GMT Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- === Sergei Moreau === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Public Access Unix of New York "They will send a copy in my place." From rito@kth.se Thu Oct 05 14:24:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!kth!rito From: rito@kth.se (Renata Ito) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct05.142427.3767@kth.se> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 14:24:27 GMT References: <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com>, smoreau@panix.com (Sergei Moreau) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Renata Ito Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mstewart@titech.ac.jp Sat Oct 07 12:41:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!titech!mstewart From: mstewart@titech.ac.jp (Mateo Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct07.124127.7519@titech.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 12:41:27 GMT References: <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com> <1995Oct05.142427.3767@kth.se> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1995Oct05.142427.3767@kth.se>, rito@kth.se (Renata Ito) writes: > The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. -- === Mateo Stewart === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From lkim@rwth-aachen.de Sat Oct 07 22:04:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!rwth-aachen!lkim From: lkim@rwth-aachen.de (Lisa Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct07.220427.4088@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 22:04:27 GMT References: <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com> <1995Oct05.142427.3767@kth.se> <1995Oct07.124127.7519@titech.ac.jp> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Oct07.124127.7519@titech.ac.jp>, mstewart@titech.ac.jp (Mateo Stewart) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. > Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Lisa Kim *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0 From flarsson@uu.net Sun Oct 08 16:51:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!uu!flarsson From: flarsson@uu.net (Fiona Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct08.165127.7264@uu.net> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 16:51:27 GMT References: <1995Oct03.181827.1859@panix.com> <1995Oct05.142427.3767@kth.se> <1995Oct07.124127.7519@titech.ac.jp> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Oct07.124127.7519@titech.ac.jp>, mstewart@titech.ac.jp (Mateo Stewart) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Fiona Larsson "Hold for relay." Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) / TOS 4.04