From tsilva@demon.co.uk Wed Aug 17 05:49:57 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!demon!tsilva From: tsilva@demon.co.uk (Tomas Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 05:49:57 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? On track 9's instrumental cut, the 14.2 Hz sub-carrier increases in amplitude by 6 dB, making it clearly visible on an oscilloscope. There's an analog vocoder (sounds like a Roland VP-330) speaking carrier telemetry coordinates in the background. Upload coming to the Ashford Poly incoming FTP directory once my upload finishes. -- === Tomas Silva === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Demon Internet Services UK "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From rfournier@utexas.edu Wed Aug 17 14:29:57 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!utexas!rfournier From: rfournier@utexas.edu (Renata Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1994Aug17.142957.1459@utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:29:57 GMT References: <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk> Organization: University of Texas at Austin NNTP-Posting-Host: utexas.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk>, tsilva@demon.co.uk (Tomas Silva) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? > On track 9's instrumental cut, the 14.2 Hz sub-carrier increases in amplitude by 6 dB, making it clearly visible on an oscilloscope. That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. -- === Renata Fournier === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From dsantos@u-tokyo.ac.jp Fri Aug 19 10:13:57 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!u-tokyo!dsantos From: dsantos@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Diego Santos) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1994Aug19.101357.3592@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 10:13:57 GMT References: <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk>, tsilva@demon.co.uk (Tomas Silva) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? > On track 9's instrumental cut, the 14.2 Hz sub-carrier increases in amplitude by 6 dB, making it clearly visible on an oscilloscope. The Akasaka branch memos specifically ordered: 'Under no circumstances allow instrumental dubs of Node 02 masters to be sold commercially.' -- === Diego Santos === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Tokyo Department of Information Science "Marcus is not one man." From dpetrov@illinois.edu Sun Aug 21 09:38:57 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!illinois!dpetrov From: dpetrov@illinois.edu (Diego Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1994Aug21.093857.2076@illinois.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 09:38:57 GMT References: <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk> <1994Aug17.142957.1459@utexas.edu> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug17.142957.1459@utexas.edu>, rfournier@utexas.edu (Renata Fournier) writes: > That Roland VP-330 vocoder is unmistakable. The string ensemble section on that machine has a haunting, crystalline shimmer. I've been looking for that promo 12-inch for four years. Please upload it as a 16-bit WAV file! -- Diego Petrov Hayes Optima 288 @ ISDN 64k bps "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From nsanchez@delphi.com Sun Aug 21 20:30:57 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!delphi!nsanchez From: nsanchez@delphi.com (Natalia Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Deleted B-sides & instrumental dubs - 'Midnight Animal' analysis Message-ID: <1994Aug21.203057.1006@delphi.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 20:30:57 GMT References: <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug17.054957.8036@demon.co.uk>, tsilva@demon.co.uk (Tomas Silva) writes: > Has anyone listened closely to the reverse vocoder lines on the 'Threshold' instrumental mix? Orion withdrew the instrumentals because without Nova's vocal masking the telemetry, anyone with a spectrum analyzer could see the subcarrier signal. -- Natalia Sánchez Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ 28,800 bps "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again."